Comments on: Beinart compares GOP and old-Dems; Times are a changin’ http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/ Merely an aggregation of a dispersed life online Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:32:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Bluey Blog | Robert B. Bluey » The State of the Movement http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1231 Bluey Blog | Robert B. Bluey » The State of the Movement Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:27:58 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1231 [...] I’ve stayed surprisingly silent the past few days about Peter Bienart’s most recent column, which insulted my employer and trashed the conservative movement. While I’ve been busy planning to take over the world, some of my friends in the conservative blogosphere (Soren Dayton, Patrick Hynes, Matt Lewis and Patrick Ruffini) have engaged in a rather spirited debate about the state of our movement. I’m going to hold off writing anything at the moment (mostly because I’m exhausted after a long week), but I do want to say that I’m pleased to see conservative bloggers having this important conversation.  Posted at 12:27 AM in Conservatism         Save to Del.icio.us         Share on Facebook [...] [...] I’ve stayed surprisingly silent the past few days about Peter Bienart’s most recent column, which insulted my employer and trashed the conservative movement. While I’ve been busy planning to take over the world, some of my friends in the conservative blogosphere (Soren Dayton, Patrick Hynes, Matt Lewis and Patrick Ruffini) have engaged in a rather spirited debate about the state of our movement. I’m going to hold off writing anything at the moment (mostly because I’m exhausted after a long week), but I do want to say that I’m pleased to see conservative bloggers having this important conversation.  Posted at 12:27 AM in Conservatism         Save to Del.icio.us         Share on Facebook [...]

]]> By: Ft. Hard Knox » links for 2007-08-17 http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1230 Ft. Hard Knox » links for 2007-08-17 Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:22:37 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1230 [...] Beinart compares GOP and old-Dems; Times are a changin’ - Soren Dayton, Eye on ‘08 a new group of leaders needs to step up. We need ideas, politics, etc. Most fundamentally, we need to start answering the questions of today and tomorrow, not refight Reagan’s fight. (tags: republicans conservatism democrats GOP) [...] [...] Beinart compares GOP and old-Dems; Times are a changin’ – Soren Dayton, Eye on ‘08 a new group of leaders needs to step up. We need ideas, politics, etc. Most fundamentally, we need to start answering the questions of today and tomorrow, not refight Reagan’s fight. (tags: republicans conservatism democrats GOP) [...]

]]> By: race42008.com » Blog Archive » Race 4 2008 Evening Essential Reads http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1229 race42008.com » Blog Archive » Race 4 2008 Evening Essential Reads Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:39:10 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1229 [...] Beinart compares GOP and old-Dems; Times are a changin’ by Soren Dayton [...] [...] Beinart compares GOP and old-Dems; Times are a changin’ by Soren Dayton [...]

]]> By: Ankle Biting Pundits » Blog Archive » Identity Group Conservatism http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1228 Ankle Biting Pundits » Blog Archive » Identity Group Conservatism Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:09:40 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1228 [...] Welcome Instapundit readers. This post is an extension of some offline conversations I’ve been having with other conservative bloggers over the past few months. Soren Dayton has additional noteworthy thoughts. [...] [...] Welcome Instapundit readers. This post is an extension of some offline conversations I’ve been having with other conservative bloggers over the past few months. Soren Dayton has additional noteworthy thoughts. [...]

]]> By: Patrick Ruffini :: links for 2007-08-16 http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1227 Patrick Ruffini :: links for 2007-08-16 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:23:31 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1227 [...] eyeon08.com » Beinart compares GOP and old-Dems; Times are a changin’ (tags: movement gop) [...] [...] eyeon08.com » Beinart compares GOP and old-Dems; Times are a changin’ (tags: movement gop) [...]

]]> By: eyeon08.com » Another perspective on the conservative movement http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1226 eyeon08.com » Another perspective on the conservative movement Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:31:33 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1226 [...] Another perspective on the conservative movement digg_url = 'http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/16/another-perspective-on-the-conservative-movement/'; digg_title = 'Another perspective on the conservative movement'; digg_bodytext = 'Yesterday, I wrote a response to Peter Beinart’s op-ed about the Republican Party and the conservative movement. I got some very positive feedback. My friend Patrick Hynes wrote on a related topic. Patrick’s thesis is basically: First, let’s be clear, American conservatism has devolved from a movement into an identity group. Patrick continues by pointing out that [...]'; digg_skin = "compact"; digg_topic = "politics"; ( function() { var ds=typeof digg_skin=='string'?digg_skin:''; var h=80; var w=52; if(ds=='compact') { h=18; w=120; } var u=typeof digg_url=='string'?digg_url:(typeof DIGG_URL=='string'?DIGG_URL:window.location.href); document.write(""); } )() Yesterday, I wrote a response to Peter Beinart’s op-ed about the Republican Party and the conservative movement. I got some very positive feedback. My friend Patrick Hynes wrote on a related topic. Patrick’s thesis is basically: First, let’s be clear, American conservatism has devolved from a movement into an identity group. [...] [...] Another perspective on the conservative movement digg_url = ‘http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/16/another-perspective-on-the-conservative-movement/’; digg_title = ‘Another perspective on the conservative movement’; digg_bodytext = ‘Yesterday, I wrote a response to Peter Beinart’s op-ed about the Republican Party and the conservative movement. I got some very positive feedback. My friend Patrick Hynes wrote on a related topic. Patrick’s thesis is basically: First, let’s be clear, American conservatism has devolved from a movement into an identity group. Patrick continues by pointing out that [...]‘; digg_skin = “compact”; digg_topic = “politics”; ( function() { var ds=typeof digg_skin==’string’?digg_skin:”; var h=80; var w=52; if(ds==’compact’) { h=18; w=120; } var u=typeof digg_url==’string’?digg_url:(typeof DIGG_URL==’string’?DIGG_URL:window.location.href); document.write(“”); } )() Yesterday, I wrote a response to Peter Beinart’s op-ed about the Republican Party and the conservative movement. I got some very positive feedback. My friend Patrick Hynes wrote on a related topic. Patrick’s thesis is basically: First, let’s be clear, American conservatism has devolved from a movement into an identity group. [...]

]]> By: Ankle Biting Pundits » Blog Archive » More Thoughts on Conservatism http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1225 Ankle Biting Pundits » Blog Archive » More Thoughts on Conservatism Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:53:28 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1225 [...] I’m not the only conservative blogger writing about conservatism and the conservative movement today. My friend Soren Dayton of Eye on 08 reacted earlier today to Peter Beinart’s Op-Ed in today’s Washington Post. I know from Soren’s post and from private conversations we’ve had that he and I have similar thoughts about the state of the movement. But whereas I take a somewhat grumpy, pessimistic view, Soren sees the low state of conservatism as an opportunity to sound the tocsin. He concludes his post thus: “It is time for a renewal. It is time to build something.” [...] [...] I’m not the only conservative blogger writing about conservatism and the conservative movement today. My friend Soren Dayton of Eye on 08 reacted earlier today to Peter Beinart’s Op-Ed in today’s Washington Post. I know from Soren’s post and from private conversations we’ve had that he and I have similar thoughts about the state of the movement. But whereas I take a somewhat grumpy, pessimistic view, Soren sees the low state of conservatism as an opportunity to sound the tocsin. He concludes his post thus: “It is time for a renewal. It is time to build something.” [...]

]]> By: sampo http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1224 sampo Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:30:42 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1224 meant to put it under Total-ing Romney’s investments in terror meant to put it under Total-ing Romney’s investments in terror

]]> By: eye http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1223 eye Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:03:26 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1223 You mean this on a different post right? Can you keep these topical? You mean this on a different post right? Can you keep these topical?

]]> By: sampo http://sorendayton.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/comment-page-1/#comment-1222 sampo Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:59:54 +0000 http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/15/bienart-compares-gop-and-old-dems-times-are-a-changin/#comment-1222 It's well known that Romney has a different set of standards. Like how Brownback is the devil for reporting his flip-flops, but Romney can lie about Giuliani for months. He's sorry now, but only after he was called out in the last debate for his rank hypocrisy. Or how he can ridicule his opponent for governor in 2002 for flip-floping on abortion. And how he can accuse people of being "holier than thao" He can bash Hillarycare all day long and get standing ovations, but factcheck.org basically says his plan in MA was "virtually identical" He can bash McCain-Kennedy on immigration today when he was on their side just months ago... and the mitt bots rejoice. Romney is getting a free ride by just about every conservative pundit I can think of. If he thinks he's being victimized now, he has no business being in this race. It’s well known that Romney has a different set of standards. Like how Brownback is the devil for reporting his flip-flops, but Romney can lie about Giuliani for months. He’s sorry now, but only after he was called out in the last debate for his rank hypocrisy.

Or how he can ridicule his opponent for governor in 2002 for flip-floping on abortion. And how he can accuse people of being “holier than thao”

He can bash Hillarycare all day long and get standing ovations, but factcheck.org basically says his plan in MA was “virtually identical”

He can bash McCain-Kennedy on immigration today when he was on their side just months ago… and the mitt bots rejoice.

Romney is getting a free ride by just about every conservative pundit I can think of. If he thinks he’s being victimized now, he has no business being in this race.

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